camtech cams

[pulsardave]

:thumbsup: where did u guys gat your cam tech cams everywhere i ask all they say is we can get the originals machined. Some people just dont listen. who in bris can supply them and a what cost fitting and tuning no probs, any info wolud be great.

[basshead]

CAMTECH phone number in Sydney is (02) 9755 3101.

I bought mine 2nd hand (as I think I told you in private emails, Dave) from a mate...

Was it you that was quoted $900 for a new set from them?

Rich.

[pulsardave]

thanks heaps mate big help :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[dan]

richard,

care to share any info about your cams with us? :)

particulary driveability, fuel consumption, installation process and any other mods that have been done to accomodate them.

[twincam16]

YES! please do tell...

Been looking round for a good set but aint having too much luck... I know Mike Glew can track a nice set down, and after going for a drive in his car, i fell in love with em :)

Screw the fuel consumtion, how does your computer handle it? did u have to get it re maped? also how "lumpy" is it on idle? ie any misfire?

[MikeG]

I can source Tomei Cams for you. I would have to check the current pricing & exchange rate, but I got mine for something like $1300 landed & taxed.

From the research I did, the Aussie manufactured cams...

Well my mom said if I can't say anythign nice, I shouldn't say anything :-)

MikeG

[twincam16]

Dont stop there mike, please continue :)

[smiffie]

what are the tomei cams like??

i'm interested aswell :D

[Splash]

I've been for a ride in Mike's car aswell and I can vouch for the Tomei cams :thumbsup:

[basshead]

I have also been for a ride in Mike's... (he gets around, doesn't he! :) )

After looking at his dyno sheet and comparing it to mine - his is alot smoother - almost identical to a stock one - only about 20-25KW more all the way along the rev range...

I think me and him should have a bit of a race (straight line) - or I could offer him to drive mine to compare the two... We've got similar bolt-on mod's too.

Camtech specify that the stage 2 cams are suited to headwork, which I haven't done yet.

I am sure there are copies of the dyno sheets on the pulsarsss yahoogroup. I think it would be better to have them on this site (www.pulsar.org.au) as there would be people that go here, and couldn't be bothered reading through 100+ messages/day on the pulsarsss yahoogroup! :)

I'll send a message to someone and see if there's some sort of database set up yet to make it easier to access this sort of information...

Oops forgot to mention about the idle... it's quite lumpy compared to Mike's and mine idles around 800rpm - like a stock one, only it sounds abit like a rotary :) There is an mpeg movie file of it on www.pulsar.org.au - maybe in the links section???

Fuel consumtion - no idea... I am always changing the wheels and the stereo, so my fuel consumption is all over the place (18's + big stereo = alot more fuel consumed!). Plus, when a car is modified, you tend to want to drive it harder anyway! :)

[MikeG]

Almost standard idle at 900rpm.

Less off idle torque, so you need to rev it a little to get it going - but you soon get used to that.

There's alot more noise, as would be expected with more lift & duration. I had to get a better muffler to stop me going deaf :-)

Power is sweet, and it just pulls and pulls.

MikeG

[Splash]

i'm definately going to be working my DE rather than getting a turbo.. everyone is doing that these days.. i'd rather say I have a fast car that ISNT turbo ;)

[twincam16]

I have always had more respect for cars that produce power without turbos.

How much can u get a set of the cams to me for Mike?

Ps - What are the exact specs too

[MikeG]

There have been some revisions of the cams that I got, and the current specs are 260 deg, 11.2mm lift, price $1400. This should get to you within 4 days.

Expect at least a 10% increase across the rev range, under 1500rpm will have minor losses.

Fitting through a place like Tassell Automotive will cost ~$350 and I recommend having your ECU remapped on the dyno.

MikeG

[Rex]

which cam should i go for the lumpiest sound

[MikeG]

Three options:

1. Get the ECU tuned to sound lumpy at idle...
2. Buy some regrinds...
3. Get a slightly more agressive profile like 270 deg 12mm lift - this will give a much more powerful top end, more losses in the bottom end and will require enhanced valve springs (not a cheap option).

[Rex]

i just listened to the sound of richards, it sounds nice and lumpy, but would u recommend the camtech or the tomei? im not really sure which one is better, keeping in mind ultimately i want to put in an aftermarket ecu, det injectors, camgears, and perhaps some headwork.

[MikeG]

I think we found that the Tomei cams had a better increase in power, and hence are better value for money...

MikeG

[Rex]

true...
i think i saw you mentioned earlier in the thread that a pair can be had for 1400? how much would installation be and who would be a good person to get to install them? id probably get the injectors, cam gears, and aftermarket ecu all done at the same time...

cheers again
clay

[MikeG]

Originally posted by MikeG
(snip)

Fitting through a place like Tassell Automotive will cost ~$350 and I recommend having your ECU remapped on the dyno.


Cam gears aren't necessary...

MikeG

[twincam16]

actually they are needed... makes it hard for the motor to run without em :Flipa:

[Chrissso]

Hey Mike,

Why are ADJUSTABLE cam gears not necessary?

Just curious.

Chris

:bounce:

[MikeG]

Can Gears are only for delecate adjustment of the cams (not necessary with non-regrinds or quality cams), especially useful if the geometry of the engine has been played with (for instance if you shave the head, or use different thickness head gaskets, etc).

MikeG

[basshead]

Lumpiest? Well mine are the only lumpy ones I've heard!

Mike's are alot smoother than mine (actually I couldn't even tell his car was running when I was standing next to it (being a bit deaf, and expecting his to sound at least something like mine :) ).


The harder the cams you get (mine are a "stage 2" - I wouldn't bother with stage 1, but say you went for a stage 3...) then they compensate the "roughness" by upping the base idle speed - this is mainly so the engine wont stall because it has trouble idling so low...

When my engine is cold, it almost stalls when I come to a stop or put the clutch in and roll to the intersection - I tap the throttle a bit to get it back up again but if I leave it long enough (5 seconds or so), it'll come back up by itself.

[SSSXS2K]

Could someone please post the specs for the camtech stage 2 cams.... If you know the specs you can get ur cams reground to these ?

Thanks guys

Pete:thwap:

[KOPDISSS]

so where do l get these tomei items from, where do l order them? l need some very soon, wont a regrind of the orignal cams to the same spec as tomei's give a similar result? please enlighten me l' alittle clueless to this part

[MikeG]

Hi,

I'm a dealer for Tomei cams. I can quote you $1500 for a set of cams to suit your car, delivered to your door.

For more info about the cams, drop me a line.

MikeG
mglew@iprimus.com.au
0416 086 476

[KOPDISSS]

so its now $1500? whats the reason for this shipping to melb? l may be interested soon just trying to sell my other car to fund the mods.

Oh and are you running standard comp with cams? is that suitable? and what power/times have you achieved with this mod? thanks man look forward to your response :)

[MikeG]

$1500 covers all the duty & tax, shipping to Oz, customs brokerage fees, checking and then shipping direct to you. Payment via cheque, mail order, paymate (credit card) or EFT.

I'm actually running 10:1 Compression, but cams should work OK with normal 9.5:1 compression. I found a 20kW peak power increase to the wheels after tuning, but this is likely to be less in a lower compression engine - it also depends on your mods. Cams improve engine breathing, and hence if you have a high flowing exhaust and induction system, you will realise better increases. You will also note a marked increase in exhaust and induction noise with cams, so be warned that you might need to revise your exhaust system for noise...

With the street cams, you will note nice increases from 3000rpm up, std power from 2000-3000rpm and a slight dip below 2000rpm. Idle will need to be increased to 900rpm (up from 800rpm) and chip tuning is recommended to sort out the drivability problems.

I hope this helps.

MikeG

[mr-n14]

hey mike G..
im interested, but....
do i need a new chip? powerchip or what ever.? or can i reprogram mine?

[MikeG]

The Nissan ECU in our cars is a motherboard which is expandable with a programmable daughterboard. When companies like Chiptorque, Sueprchip, Nismo, Tomei, etc sell you a "chip", it is a programmable chip, on a daughterboard that can be plugged into the Nissan ECU. Most of these are actually rebadged Nismo daughterboards...

To get the best out of major modifications, such as cams, different injectors, different pistons, and even to tune up your computer for minor mods like exhaust and intake, reprogramming maps with a "chip" are a good option.

With uprated cams, you get alot of stalling & throttle response problems introduced, some more agressive cams just won't allow your engine to run without a reprogram. With the Tomei street cams, the car will run, but you will have problems with stalling (which can be partially overcome with raising the idle speed) and throttle response. You can, however, plan to do the chip remap later on if you can't afford it all up-front...

Does that answer your question?

MikeG

[KOPDISSS]

so have you run your car down the 1/4 yet? A stocky does it in 15.9-16.0 yeah?

I know 1/4 isn't the be all end all for power/driveablity but l think its a good indication,

Cheers Mike l will get back to you about the Cams, l'm very interested l'll Pm you with my parts request :)

[MikeG]

I've done a GTech of 15.2 sec for 400m and 0-100 time of 6.8 sec. Not sure how realistic that is... I must get to Eastern Creek one street drags night...

MikeG

[kamikaze]

i've g-tech stocker N14 SSS got 16.01 0-100 7.45

[MadGa16De]

What about cams for the Ga16De?

Theres one that the agents for powerchip have i was gonna give a go.

[MikeG]

No can do...

[sathid]

so they dont make cams for the GA16?
know anyone who does?

[kw]

I bumped into a guy down at SCA and he said he used Nismo cams and cam gears in his old pulsar and that they really used to hammer with Unichip, anyone know anything about Nismo cams?

[MikeG]

AFAIK Nismo cams require solid lifters, not dynamic lifters (standard), so you require extra work & parts to use these cams. Tonei also supply cams for solid lifters.

Solid lifters allow you to extend your rev range.

MikeG

[kw]

So with yours mike you could just fit them straight in there?

[MikeG]

Yes, that's right - no additional parts are needed, except perhaps a rockercover gasket...

MikeG

[sathid]

what engine have u got mikeg ?

[MikeG]

SR20DE with high compression pistons (like the Japanese Primera & European Almera GTi

MikeG

[sathid]

well i dont mean to be rude, but isn't this meant to be the section for NON sr20 drivetrains? it's just that u come in here telling us all about your cams and getting us all excited, but we cant put them in a GA16. just the sr20.
now i'm dissapointed u c. but if i had read it in the SR20 section i'd have known

[Splash]

I believe this thread actually started before the sections were broken up. I'll move it now.

[MYN15]

Hey Mike, just watching High Performance Imports v1 vid and they have the Tomei factory over in japan on it. They also mention about the quad throttle and cams. what do you think about the quad throttle have you heard anything about them? you also talked about programmable chips do Tomei make one too. watching the vid inspired me to keep my sr20 a N/A car and not to go the forced. (tried to visit their website but all in jap)
www.tomei-p.co.jp

[sathid]

oh ok.
i wasn't trying to be rude or anything, it's just unfair u guys can get tomei cams and i cant!
heh
:gives: .......:wave:

[MikeG]

Originally posted by myn15
Hey Mike, just watching High Performance Imports v1 vid and they have the Tomei factory over in japan on it. They also mention about the quad throttle and cams. what do you think about the quad throttle have you heard anything about them? you also talked about programmable chips do Tomei make one too. watching the vid inspired me to keep my sr20 a N/A car and not to go the forced. (tried to visit their website but all in jap)
www.tomei-p.co.jp

The quad throttle bodies sound good, and I'm not sure how good they would be for power enhancement. They might be a good idea for a car WITH cams, but I'd be getting cams first...

MikeG

[MikeG]

Originally posted by sathid
oh ok.
i wasn't trying to be rude or anything, it's just unfair u guys can get tomei cams and i cant!
heh
:gives: .......:wave:

No worries.

MikeG

[MikeG]

Oh, if you guys want to read about the Tomei gear, check out http://world.altavista.com - you can translate Japanese to English, etc.

MikeG

[MYN15]

Originally posted by MikeG
The quad throttle bodies sound good, and I'm not sure how good they would be for power enhancement. They might be a good idea for a car WITH cams, but I'd be getting cams first...

MikeG


Yeh thats what i was thinking