RE - comments on companies

[Bullion]

Just regarding the thing about commenting on other business etc... I didn't read that case that was posted, but I feel that if you have a bad experience with a business, you have the right to say so... So I honestly don't see why we should get banned for something that DID happen? Sure saying bad things about certain business' that you havent actually used is pathetic and should rightly be stopped, but to mention something that DID happen to you or someone you know should be allowed...

If you were wanting info on workshops or whatever, wouldn't u like to hear what has happened to other customers? I know i'd be pretty pissed if i got jibbed by someone, whilst another member here could have warned me about it...

I'd just like to know other's opinions?

[xlnsss]

its been done for legal reasons.

[Bullion]

Hmmm.... law sucks... Was that an american law suite? If so, we dont live in the USA, we dont sure for fun.. yet...

I still believe we should be able to say something if it DID happen...

[Bullion]

Ummm... has anyone actually read that lawsuite thingy mabob? If i'm not mistaken, he LOST the first round and is trying again? This guy from petswarhouse is a freakin tool! did u read what the defendants actually wrote in emails? and i quote...

"as a source for purchasing plants, they do not have a good reputation" (Defendant Jared Weinberger-May 21, 2001)

and many other remarks similar to this... Anyways, this Novak fella has no idea, and is a fag, he'll lose, and hopefully he will become bankrupt...

I hate to sound like a hippy, but what the HELL happened to free speech? Maybe if this guy actually won his case, (which he won't) I will respect the wishes of the admin here, but really... Can someone please remark on how the HONESTLY feel about this?

[Snuffy]

the problem is actually that even if a precendent is set in this test case.... if someone on this board does get taken to court about a similar situation.... it will still cost them time and money for representation... even if they win the case and get their costs covered.. it's time wasted...

safer if we just dont say anything...

[dan]

because we're better off safe than sorry.

these forums are run as a volunteer service, on donated hardware with donated software on a, you guessed it, donated connection. the benefit of being able to speak your mind about poor trade deals is far outweighed by the (potential) cost of getting sued.

[Bullion]

All valid points, but this is the only forums I know of that has this rule...

[Splash]

read the terms and conditions for the Overclockers Australia forum then...

here (http://www.overclockers.com.au/forum_rules.shtml) and here (http://www.overclockers.com.au/defamation.shtml)

[Bullion]

Hmmm... very gay indeed... I don't mean to sound like i'm arguing ur rule guys. Just wanted to know how everyone felt, as suing for this kind of thing is quite frankly, ridiculous... If I went up to some guy on the street and told him his shoes were crap and others around me heard it, should I be sued?

[Splash]

its like dan said.. better to be safe than sorry..

See the problem is if someone comes to the forum just after having some work done they're not happy with, they're not going to be in the best mood to post something constructively.. So instead of saying what went wrong etc, they just begin bagging out where-ever the work was done. This is how trouble starts, especially if we dont hear both sides of the story.

Maybe instead of concentrating on hearing about negative stories, maybe we should be asking people to post about positive experiences with companies, shops, mechanics etc.. then you'll know where you should take your business and not have to worry about getting 'jibbed' by someone like you meantioned in your first post.

[dominic]

agree:thumbsup:

[dan]

bullion,

we made this decision because we dont want to place ourselves in the position where we may get sued for someone elses comments. a good friend of mine has been sued due to bad comments about a firm that were on his online forum, and even tho all that occured was a bouncing of letters between solicitors it cost him over $6,000 in legal fees..

to my mind, it's simply not worth it..

especially when the benefits from such comments are very restricted.

[Bullion]

Fair enough, just wanted to know how others felt about it... it's not my site, so I can't make the rules... But If someone "constructively" criticises someething I don't see how that can be bad? For instance, if i went to a shop and got a quote for a coat of paint, standard pulsar blue, for $10,000 and I said,

"geez, I went there and they wanted to charge me $10,000! I'm not going there again!"

Whats wrong with that?

[dan]

if someone dosnt like it there is the possiblity of them taking legal action against us, even if the action would not be successful in a court of law :)

we're not risking it.

[Mr N20]

Originally posted by Bullion
All valid points, but this is the only forums I know of that has this rule...

Correct me if im wrong but didnt Mark Rushton present the same type of ruling after you wrongfully made a remark about incar in a certain thread in your forum??? And then to cover your own ass you guys deleted it??.......Im not sticking up for phil but i think mark did post something to that degree.....:thumbsup:

shan

P.S If you have something bad to say about a shop and you need to tell someone then thats what pm's, icq, msn messenger, phone or some other communication device is for.....true?

just my 2c

[Booba]

imo there is nothing wrong with a comment like this as long as you stick with the facts.

if you start saying things like the following
"company x wanted to charge $10000 and company y did it for $5000, frankly i think company a are a bunch of ripoff faggots"

then your asking for trouble a simple company x is charging $10000 and i think they are overpriced" well there is nothing wrong with that what do you two thing *booba points to dan and splash*

Originally posted by Bullion
Fair enough, just wanted to know how others felt about it... it's not my site, so I can't make the rules... But If someone "constructively" criticises someething I don't see how that can be bad? For instance, if i went to a shop and got a quote for a coat of paint, standard pulsar blue, for $10,000 and I said,

"geez, I went there and they wanted to charge me $10,000! I'm not going there again!"

Whats wrong with that?

[Bullion]

Originally posted by 80UNC


Correct me if im wrong but didnt Mark Rushton present the same type of ruling after you wrongfully made a remark about incar in a certain thread in your forum??? And then to cover your own ass you guys deleted it??.......Im not sticking up for phil but i think mark did post something to that degree.....:thumbsup:

shan



For anyone's information, the thread was closed due to unnecessary comments about INCAR which even though they were valid, it was getting out of hand. Nor was it closed due to anything I had said... it wasnt closed due to fear of being sued...